Religious hospitals and aged care providers will be able to refuse to employ people on the basis of their religion, under a change to the Morrison government's proposed religious discrimination bill.
Attorney-General Christian Porter said religious aged care homes and hospitals would be able to employ staff on the basis of their religion.Mr Porter told the National Press Club on Wednesday that religious hospitals "do not appear to make decisions about the admission of patients based on any given patient's religion or absence of religion, and do not seek to do so". He added that with "very few exceptions," neither did aged care providers.
"A balance must be struck between the competing objectives of providing access and maintaining a faith-based identity. The most important thing must be all Australians get the care they deserve," ACSA chief executive Pat Sparrow said. Public submissions on the bill closed last month, releasing an avalanche of diverse criticism from across the political and religious spectrum.
A terrific step in the right direction. It's high time we recognise, celebrate and embrace our Judeo-Christian heritage.
Oh for fuck's sake! I'm trying to teach my students about diversity in the workplace - and how it's a good thing = and I have to contend with this shit?
Well done a step backwards for Australia. auspol
So let me get this, Religions are allowed to discriminate? So if that's the case, can I discriminate against the religious?
Even a child can tell this isn't acceptable. 🤦
What Right have You to do this
So the advertisements will state that Catholics/Anglicans only need apply! 🤦♀️
How long before they refuse to treat people on the basis of their religion?
We are devolving as a species
And this is apparently acceptable policy. No government money should be given to religious organizations of any kind.
We have so many serious and crippling problems facing us as a nation and *this* is what the my have been spending their time on? Jesus wept.
Discrimination restored
cporterwa can you explain why it’s dangerous not to believe in a god? Can you explain why the AG, who has an obvious conflict of interest is writing this legislation?
Blessed Be Under His Eye Be scared
I guess this simply means that belief is a powerful thing; or perhaps, a subjective focus. Ideology, obviously, is a discriminator!
Richard_D_Boyle Crims.
Richard_D_Boyle can i refuse to hire any Catholic because of Pell ?
cporterwa I take it now non religious nursing homes and hospitals will be free to not employ people because of their religious beliefs? Senator_Patrick This a slippery slope this Govt is careering down!
Not before time. 'Those that pay the bill call the shots' Those PC NS minorities telling me how to run my business just piss-off.
So much for broad church idea. Jesus would be alarmed by cherry picking of his teachings. If he came back (with a temper) I wonder whom he would smite first in the LNP.
So they should be in hospitals and the likes, what if someone is in desperate need of a blood transfusion and the Dr does not allow it because of his beliefs ?
So this government is now engaged in actively restricting Aussies rights to freedom of religion! I may no longer be hired on the basis of my skills, knowledge & experience & could be bypassed for a role because someone with less ability to do the job worships the 'right' God?
Can anybody believe that this man witha such a porcity of intelligence ends up as our Attorney general? Because I can't. He's even stuffed up on points of law FFS! Why is Australia being run by mindboglingly intellectual midgets.
I have always maintained the insidious creep of religion into Australian politics, much like the USA. Remember the good old days when we separated church and state? Back to inquisitions I guess.
Ah yes. Just as Jesus taught. 🙄
MorpheusBeing Let’s just give all religious institutions the ability to run their organisations according to their interpretations of what their religion stands for only on the basis that their tax exempt status is withdrawn.
Australia is becoming like that joke about Heaven. Atheists/from X religion gets into Heaven, likes it, then notice a wall keeping people within a private section. When they ask, they’re told that’s exclusively for those of Y religion who think they’re the only ones allowed in.
And as a consequence will lose public funding, which will then be allocated to hospitals which serve the public without picking and choosing the legal services provided or the people served?
And what if people have no religion?
Wtf is wrong with these people.
This law is against the constitution of Australia! It is an illegal law. cporterwa must be jailed for crimes against Australia, the Australian people & the constitution of Australia. auspol
Hey cporterwa Please provide proof of concept for your “god” business model. religiousNutters 👈🏽 auspol
does it also mean we can refuse to donate our tax dollars to those organizations based on our religious beliefs?
And refuse to treat and house people too I assume, good system
judyfree10 What a can of worms this will open. Will they also be able to deny service to non religious? Will they still expect govt subsidies after all non religious contribute to the tax take? Will we all have to have our religious state tattooed on our wrists? More division😡
It would be great if someone from the judiciary could explain why this religious discrimination bill is not inconsistent with the Constitution Act s116. I might be a layperson yet the Constitution is in plain English and the Libs seem to have crossed the line? Anyone? ?
Plaintiff in future to show 'serious damage' to reputation to weed out most of the nonsense 'thin skin' claims. Now there's an idea worth pursuing! betterlaws defamation
Then no Tax $ funding - if funding is provided by Australian Tax $ how can the Govt allow discrimination
I'm totally confused, so a religious freedom act is designed to discriminate against those with differing views. So can a hospital can refuse to care for a person on religious grounds? What is happening to this country.
Game on cporterwa. This also means that as an atheist I can refuse to hire anyone with religious beliefs. Cool. ReligiousFreedom auspol
I believe freedoms have just been curtailed....
This is disgusting
Does this bill allow for non religious to discriminate against those of religion?
No one should ever forget that this is where ScottMorrisonMP priorities lay a stupid and unnecessary bill pushed through instead of preparing for ClimateChange and Bushfire auspol LiarFromTheShire
Then they shouldn't get taxpayers money.
My God! Forward to the dark ages.
Stop this RD bill
Is it 1500 or 2019? The power that deluded religious babies have over this country is frankly embarrassing.
Pathetic! Tax the church!!!!
Too easy to bugger this up - set up Welcome All (Atheist) Aged Care Facility that employs people irrespective of their religious beliefs.
What has happened to democracy!
Excellent work, I really miss the great old days of the catholics vs protestants, great to see someone is bringing them back
Do we live in a religious theocracy? Like certain other countries that the right love to hate. Unbelievable.
So where is the rights of the consumer considered? Losing our religion.. what next? Non religious preachers? Wake up society! This is about choice based on values.. or whatever is left.
Awesome. Legalised discrimination. I can of course make sure my atheist taxes don't go to them right?
This sounds very undemocratic and potentially very discriminatory. How can we have a society that allows such basic discrimination? auspol religiousfreedom
Hypothetically thinking... As an atheist, do I have the right to refuse to employ a non-atheist? If yes,it is an absurd piece of legislation. If no, it is an biased and unfair piece of legislation. Let’s face it, it is rubbish.
This disgusts me so much
Fair enough provided they receive no taxpayer funds.
They can't have my taxes then fair's fair.
But Bill just wasn’t likeable...
Insane.
We shall have to out them for their prejudice and inhumanity The lust they have for power and influence over others is a danger and ever-present threat to our democracy We are either all equal in law or we are not Under this government under this threat we are not
So religious discrimination.
I think I must've fallen down a rabbit hole and now find myself in the 1800's. Surely this cannot be Australia 2019. This is the opening of a Pandora's Box.
The LiberalAus need to go!
Disgraceful! Introducing US style bigotry to Australia
Yes, we must institutionalize discrimination, bigotry, racism in order to make the white patriarchy feel that they're still in charge & are relevant.
MickKime This makes my blood boil. Religion has no place in our law. Cause they believe in something with no foundation now, employers of that ilk have been given the right to discriminate. Legally. This is bull$hit.
If religious organisations insist on their right to discriminate in this manner, they must also accept the public's unwillingness to continue to support their favourable tax treatment. auspol2019 ScottMorrisonMP cporterwa
ReligousFreedom How to devide a community, yet Christ tried to draw his community together, oh how far you have fallen! auspol
Matthew 19 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
NUMB NUT HAS DONE IT AGAIN
Many of our followers religion allows them to toss yogurt on the heads of Politicians. I'm off to exercise my religious right.
So you can be sure that when you are fed on $6 a day, left in soiled pads and have maggots in your bed sores, at least it was a catholic neglecting you. Not some Baptist
Of all the issues the country is facing; bushfires, climate change, slowing economy, and this is what the government is busy legislating... all so churches can fire minority workers. This is what passes for government these days. auspol
What a very seriously troubled government is this. People can be found unsuitable for any work place position, on a myriad of issues. No need to even consider their religion, or lack of. What public service bullshit is this ?
More dominionist BS from this theocratic Gov
religion = greatest bullshit story ever told
This legalising of discrimination perpetuates a narrative of prejudice that could have serious ramifications for the care and treatment of many minority groups DoBetter
So if the WORLD’S BEST HEART SURGEON IS GAY? They would reject them on the basis of their sexuality? That. Is. Truly. Sick.
RichardDawkins have you seen this? 🙄 auspol
Because that really is the biggest issue facing Australia at this present time isn't it ...auspol2019
As long as non of my tax dollars go to these institutions either.
It seems like the opposite of what a discrimination bill should be about 🤷🏻♂️ Why is this 1819 type nonsense happening in 2019?
Got to get this corrupt government out of our personal lives
If you went back in time 10-15 years and said to someone sensible 'In the future the Liberal govt will legislate to make it legal to reuse to employ people on the basis of their religion'....they'd probably say 'You mean NOT legal'...and you'd say 'You'd think that but no'.
Does this include Atheists?
And what about treating or refusing to treat people on the basis of their religion. thiswillnotendwell.
jurylady5 So a Newstart recipient denied a job because of their religious beliefs won't be subjected to any penalty cporterwa? askingforafriend auspol abc730
Good luck to them finding enough staff then.
Anyone else wondering how far into this roiling vat of rancid fascism we will allow ourselves to be lowered, before we stand up and say “No!”
jurylady5 Will unemployed Hindu Australians be allowed to refuse to work at Maccas without incurring any Newstart penalty cporterwa? religion LiberalAus to rewrite its position on Government involvement in personal lives.
I have decided my company will no longer employ believers in sky fairies! We are a computer consulting firm so logic not belief is paramount auspol
Hi we’d like the right to be assholes. Can the government help with that? Sure can
A grave mistake. Providers of universal health and aged care services funded by tax-payers should not have a right to discriminate that will not be available to similar (but secular) organisations. All tax-payers will become complicit in an insidious form of discrimination.
Does the reverse apply? Can I discriminate against religous folk? Reciprocity?
Why doesn't he go all the way and allow religious hospitals not to treat the non -religious?
I would have thought it far more important to address the rampant abuse of people in aged care than whether some God botherer has the right to sack a gay nurse. The priorities of this government are a disgrace.
Does this go the other way as well. Can any business not linked to a religion refuse to employ someone based on their religion? LiberalAus ScottMorrisonMP auspol - otherwise it’s just religious discrimination going the other way
This is terrible. People don’t go to hospitals or nursing homes to worship. They go because they don’t have any choice. The overwhelming not-for-profit aged care homes are run by churches auspol
What a glorious country we are turning into.
In other words, employers are now allowed to discriminate based on religion
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